Posted: 10/11/2011 6:40:17
I had a DPMS AR-10 that shot accurately with a variety of factory loads. Holding about 1.5 to 2.0 MOA with everything from Aussie milsurp to Fed Am Eagle was boringly routine. That might have been the best $1K I ever spent on a firearm. I suppose one could spend a bit more for another 1/2 MOA, but for hunting I think the DPMS AR-10 would be just fine.
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Originally Posted By klauseboy:
I’d like a opinion on semi-auto 308 for shootingshooting targetsand long range hunting. Any body have a Les Baer? Any recomendations?
Depending on what you mean by “long range”, there are more suitable calibers for long range shooting and hunting using the AR-10/AR-308 platform.
There are various 6.5mm wildcats, such as the 6.5 Creedmore. There is also the Remington 260.
IMO, these cartridges are particularly attractive if you handload.
Obviously, the 6.5mm will be less capable at taking very large game than the 7.62mm.
For example, I would prefer a 7.62×51 were I shooting black bear.
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If your looking for AR-10 class weapon for long range I would opt for one of the 6.5mm/.264 caliber VLD rounds:
260 Rem.,6.5 Creedmoor, or the hot 6.5-284 round. The 6.5/.264′s have a wide selection of VLD projectiles that
can go yard and still have moderate/low recoil.
You can also go w/ the DPMS pattern in std. 308 Win. that are plentifull and cheaper to reload, 338 Federal, or .
300 SAUM for some extra gusto but at added recoil and cost. The 308 caliber class has a wider range of projectiles
but at a lower BC usually vs. the 6.5mm/.264′s projectiles.
Just gets down to BC, Recoil,and Cost. I vote 6.5mm/.264 for the VLD’s,Lower Recoil,and Projectile Selection.
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Link To 100% (6): 10/13/2011 10:28:53 AM EDT
If you look at the build specs, material used you well see the LMT MWS and ArmaLite AR10 are the best bang for the buck.
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Media Media Collections 0% (0): 10/13/2011 2:49:23
Build your own exactly how you want it, and do it in .260 Rem if you want actual long-range capability.
Use a Tactical Machining Lower for $229
DPMS AP4 upper…………………………$145
DPMS BCG…………………………………$145
DPMS LPK…………………………………..$ 70
Geissele 2-stage trigger……………….$170
Furniture of your choice (Troy makes some great new handguards in the TRX Extreme line for .308′s now)
JP/VTAC handguard
PRI
Simple float tube
PRS Stock is the go-to long-range AR stock.
I’ve owned 5 different Armalite AR10T’s, DPMS LR-308′s, and have built the last few on DPMS receivers with GA Precision barrel work. My current favorite is a .260 Rem with a Bartelin barrel that prints 5-round groups sub-1/2 MOA for fun. It is a tack-driver. I would also recommend Cerakoting the receivers, outside of the barrel, and other metal parts that you might want to protect from corrosion, while adding a professional texture and custom color for your personal tastes or re-sale value.
.260 Rem is probably the best cartridge to go with in the AR10 for long-range for the following reasons:
Brass availability from at least 5 sources, to include Lapua now.
Good barrel life compared to 6.5×284
Use standard Knight’s pattern mags, such as from CProducts or the Magpul 7.62 PMAG
Even the longest 6.5 VLD’s fit in mag-length for the .260 Rem (no need for 6.5 Creedmoor with one brass source)
You have the best selection of .308-case-based cartridges that are used in long-range competition, and the best selection of projectiles in that class. A .330 WM won’t even beat a .260 Rem at 1000yds for wind deflection, and most .260 Rem loads beat it for trajectory as well, while not sucking up anywhere as near much of powder.
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I own and shoot a DPMS LRT SASS. It comes with a jp adjustable trigger and and 18 inch barrel. With most 168 grain bullets you will reach beyond 1000yds before falling below supersonic. It also takes P-mags which will fit even m118LR. I shoot consistent .75inch or better groups at 100yds using factory Hornady Tap red box 168 amax. I see no problem with the 308 win as a long range cartrige. The military uses it and it seems to work great for them. Also ammo availability is great. 110 grain tap all the way to 190 grain corbon bthp. And they all fit in the P-mags! Technically this is not an AR-10. only armalites are considered ar-10′s. I dont see the big deal but some fan boys here will jump on you for it.
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I’ve shot with .308 auto-loaders in competition, where distances reach out to at least 900m, and my .308 AR10 was found lacking past 600m. Once you put a .30 cal bullet appropriate for the AR10 action out there, they get blown around by the wind like a balloon…and I was using one of the best .308 “long-range” bullets: the 155gr Lapua Scenar running about 2820-2850fps. If you hold up a 155gr Scenar to a 175gr Sierra Match King, you’ll see really quick why a lot of long-range shooters were preferring them before they switched to .260 Rem several years ago. I was bull-headed and thought that I would be competitive with a .308 at distance, when I should have gone with a .260 Rem from the start for my long-range AR’s.
Don’t let the supersonic argument trick you like it did me. “Still supersonic at 1000yds” doesn’t mean much when your wind drift is 3 Mils or more, and your trajectory is over 10 Mils. You can get a .260 Rem well under 9 Mils drop and under 2 Mils of wind deflection with a full-value 10mph wind at 1000yds, and still have gas to go to 1100, 1200, and further with the 140gr class projectiles.
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LaRue Tactical OBR, LMT MWS, and LWRC REPR are the best IMO. They’ll give you the best accuracy, quality, and reliability. The CMMG SASS, RRA, and DPMS are pretty good too. I’ve never been impressed with any of the AR10′s from Armalite and I’ve had a few of them, plus their magazines flat out suck.
If you want to buy once cry once then buy one of the first three, if you want a good gun for your money buy one of the second three. Can’t really go wrong with any of them but some are better than others.
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Media Media Collections 0% (0): 10/14/2011 10:16:01 AM EDT
Accuracy Systems Inc.
Check them out. They offer a custom build in almost any caliber you can think of. I sent my Armalite (already a great weapon) out to them and had a barrel cut and installed and a little mod work. This rifle is now SCARY accurate. Rifle now shoots well beyond my ability. Very respectable prices as well.
Sorry I don’t know how to hot linksighted in new ar yesterday, aimpoint pro and troy buis , going to confirm zero today at 200 yds, will be cutting a circle out of neon paper mounted on a white background at that distance what size aiming point(circle) should I use? thanks ahead of time
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[: 10/11/2011 1:57:43 by RedFalconBill]
Originally Posted By mayorbilk:
sighted in new ar yesterday, aimpoint pro and troy buis , going to confirm zero today at 200 yds, will be cutting a circle out of neon paper mounted on a white background at that distance what size aiming point(circle) should I use? thanks ahead of time
The Pro has a 2 MOA dot, which @ 200 yards is ~4 3/16″.
Use a circle 6″ in diameter, or larger. It might be cheaper/easier to cut a circle out of a 8.5″x11″ piece of paper.
I do not know your sight radius, or what thickness of front sight you are using, on your BUIS.
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